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Tomorrowland... FAST PASS -or- HARD PASS
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Welcome to the Disneyville podcast episode 47, where we talk about the Disney parks Disney cruise and all the magic in between.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:What did we realize recently, tyler, so a?
Speaker 2:couple things. First of all, I was going back because we were going to do an episode today and then we realized quickly that we had already done it. Because I was all excited. I called Jessica. I was like hey, we're going to do. Like Never have I Ever like Disney bucket list things we want to do.
Speaker 1:And I had already written down a list. We've already done that episode, basically.
Speaker 2:I was like I started to write down a list. I was like this is going to be so fun. And Jessica was like on the phone. She's like tyler, we've already done that.
Speaker 1:She's like no, and so we did. It was. It was a great episode. First of all, it's called never have I ever. We'll link it below. If you're watching on youtube, scroll back.
Speaker 2:Never have I ever episode right and it was super fun yeah, so that's why he wanted to do it again so that was the first time I was an idiot, second time you were looking at it so I'm scrolling back in our episodes and I go back somewhere around episode 30, 31. And I see in the description it says we're back for season three. And then I realized that in the last episode I said we're back for season three, so technically we are in season four, even though I just said we're in season three. So welcome to season four, episode two.
Speaker 1:We've made it. Also. I'm pretty sure I said season three in some kind of Instagram reel. I recently posted so whatever it's season four, we make our own rules.
Speaker 2:We do half season.
Speaker 1:We're our own mommy and daddy on this podcast. You know what?
Speaker 2:I just so I got survivor on the brain because I'm reading the book called Disney War, which is a fantastically interesting book If you are interested in Disney history at all. It's all about the Eisner years and of Disney and juicy, everything going on with Iger and like Roy Disney and the board and like it's a lot of behind the scenes stuff. It is fascinating. I cannot believe I've never read it before. One of the best books about Disney I've ever read, because it's not only. I mean it talks about the parks, it talks about abc, it talks about every single thing that's going on behind the scenes at disney. What it's fascinating. Uh, anyway, they talked about survivor and abc is in the show, tv show. Okay, abc passed on survivor because they thought it wasn't going to be a hit and then it just ended up being.
Speaker 1:It ended up like, especially in that at that time, oh yeah, oh my gosh, it was huge.
Speaker 2:They ended up picking up who wants to be a millionaire and it was a huge show when it first debuted and they had like the number one show and then survivor debuted over on cbs just killed. Who wants to be a millionaire?
Speaker 1:but both shows are so different, you know.
Speaker 2:But point of my story is I just saw that they are on season I think 49. Survivor is. That's crazy, did any of you?
Speaker 1:guys watch. Did any of you guys have you watch all 49 seasons? I mean, I remember when that launched.
Speaker 2:We were kids. I watched the first like season or two. Oh yeah, everyone did. It was like American Idol, you could yeah. Yeah, it was like that was the show to watch.
Speaker 1:The first few seasons of.
Speaker 2:I think some of the best television is speaking of who wants to be a millionaire. They talked about it in this book and I remember watching it live. Okay, do you remember the first person to win a million dollars on who wants to be a millionaire? No but boy, was that great TV. It was the best television I've ever seen, because the guy who won I don't remember what he did I think he was. I think he worked at a bank or he was a I don't know what he did he.
Speaker 1:He worked in finance. He works at a bank. Is that Michael Scott?
Speaker 2:But he, it was amazing. He got all the way to the last question, didn't use any of his lifelines, the final question he calls his dad, uses a lifeline.
Speaker 1:I remember this to just tell him that he's about to win a million dollars, oh my God.
Speaker 2:And I remember thinking, even as, like a 10 year old, I'm like that's a power play right there. Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and use that because everyone like no lifelines and so like he used a lifeline and it was just to call his dad and tell him he's gonna willy me great tv.
Speaker 2:Oh, man, you know, they don't make them like they used to anyway, yeah, so whole point of my story is we're eventually going to get to disneyville, season 49 that's all, and you guys will be there and live to tell the tale, all right we'll be 90 years old.
Speaker 1:Okay, moving right along things will look so different than I bet, okay we'll be in 16k. I don't think you'll see I think when I'm 90 I won't want to be in 16k, we'll be three.
Speaker 2:We would want to be in 16k now hologram models sitting with you inside your living rooms. Anyway, okie dokie. So what are we doing today?
Speaker 1:Today we are playing a game that we have been calling plus one minus one. It is a game that we'd heard on an old podcast called Wedway Radio, and I think perhaps they still make some episodes. Is that where we heard this? This is where I heard it. They I don't think they, I don't remember if they called it this or not, but it was a similar game where, basically, you name a ride or a show or a restaurant and you give one positive thing that you absolutely love about it and one either negative thing that you don't like or something you would change, which those are the most fun ones, and I have a lot of change ideas for some of these.
Speaker 1:And Disney, if you're listening, you are welcome to any of our ideas for free, anyway, uh, so we have realized, though we don't think the name plus one minus one is great. I feel like a lot of people don't really know what it is. So if you were to like scroll past it on YouTube or on your podcast, you might be like, ah, I'm going to skip this episode. So we asked you guys, should we share that? Now? We'll share that at the end, some different ideas. So either we titled this video plus one.
Speaker 2:Minus one because we decided not to change it or we went with one of your ideas yeah, you already know it so yeah, and if we, if we did, we will definitely give you credit, because we've been calling it this. I think this is our fourth, third, fourth episode. We've done with plus one minus third, I think yeah and yeah, we just need. We need a better name for it, we need a better hook.
Speaker 1:So yeah, you guys shared some ideas. We'll share that towards the end of the pod.
Speaker 2:So today we are doing specifically Tomorrowland. We always kind of hone in on a land or we're doing we're doing like quick service restaurants or you know whatever. So today we're doing Tomorrowland. So if you guys want to play along, I'm going to read the list really quickly of the ones we're going to do.
Speaker 1:So get out your pens and papers, hey some of you guys are driving, don't you dare you know what. Why don't we just do it as we go and you can pause your podcast? When we say the one we're on, you think through yours. This is what I did when I was listening to it on the other podcast. Pause it, think through yours and then hit play and listen to what we say.
Speaker 2:We're going to share some of yours at the end, too, pens down, yeah.
Speaker 1:Hey, you guys are driving. Some of you guys are watching. You're folding your laundry being reckless. Put the laundry down. Put the laundry down. I have a laundry machine, Okay.
Speaker 2:Alrighty.
Speaker 1:So shall we start?
Speaker 2:So the way that we have it kind of written down here. There's a few that we're skipping, that are just ones that I didn't really have anything to talk about, but we're gonna do rides first and then we have a few restaurants. So ready, I'm always ready. All right, starting with the tomorrowland speedway, take it away okay.
Speaker 1:my plus is it is kind of cool on that ride that you get to cut. You see weird pockets of the magic kingdom back there and you're kind of getting into areas that you otherwise really don't see and for that reason I feel like you almost don't feel like you're in the magic kingdom when you're actually on that ride, if you will do you ever feel that way and maybe that's because it feels like rides that you ride at, like local theme parks, like king's island near us place. Like I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty sure they have that ride and I'm pretty sure I've done it. It just doesn't feel very Disney-y and I used to kind of hate on this ride but I've grown to kind of like it for the nostalgia of it and that it is still fun, like it's even for the little kids like it's still fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So my minus is let's change the line, guys. You're in pure sun Most of the time. Everyone's fighting for the little tiny bits of shade you get Put the awning you know the awning they have in front of haunted mansion that you have all along. Yeah, that, of course, was there to protect people from the sun. Do exactly that all the way through, like these little, this thing they're doing where it's like a couple umbrellas randomly scattered. I'm like not enough, disney. Yeah, you know how hot it is, yeah because it has the.
Speaker 2:There is like that area at the beginning, but then once you're right, once you go past that, it's like just give us an awning over the whole thing yeah, you're right the same goes for a great goofini, or what is it actually called now?
Speaker 1:goof coaster?
Speaker 2:no, that's what they should call it the goof coaster, the goofinator.
Speaker 1:I got many ideas. Uh, anyway, they the same thing, where they have a few random sporadic umbrellas. I'm like no, no, no, no, no I want a hole on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's trying I don't need the artistic, just thank you for the triangles, but shade and me and the guy in front of me are like butt to butt, trying to share this triangle why are you facing different directions?
Speaker 1:well, because it felt awkward but we need fans we need an actual exact moment, by the way. I mean come on we all know on the great goose to ride so, yeah, they're nostalgic.
Speaker 2:I mean, even kids can drive them, which is so fun. You gotta love that. The I also love that it goes back to autopia in disneyland. Bob gerr designed all these cars going back to 1955. So you've got the autopia tie-in dating back for 70 years now. And we also have sort of an indiana tie-in, because for a long time they were from like the 90s to like 2010, 2008, something like that they were called the tomorrowland indie cars or speedway, tomorrowland indie speedway and we live in indie, which is kind of cool, um, and now it's just the tomorrowland speedway. So that's kind of cool. We have the indie tie-in, they have the history tie-in, all that kind of stuff. So yeah, it's kind of cool. The girls love doing it because it's something fun that you know, even as adults get a little of that gas smell, you know so my minus one or something that I want to change.
Speaker 2:here's what I need them to figure out. I need them to find an eco-friendly way to give me the gas smell, but then I need them to change all of these cars to like electric golf carts, and I know they can do it because on Norwegian Cruise Line they have these electric golf carts that sound like electric or they sound like real, like go-karts and like.
Speaker 2:So they have like in in your headrest. They have like these things. They rumble like they, they feel like legit, but they're yeah, you feel like you're flying yeah we have a little mini story.
Speaker 1:When we were on the norwegian we were with our friends ben and emily and we were doing this golf cart thing.
Speaker 2:Go-kart. We keep saying golf cart, go-kart track.
Speaker 1:Go-kart. I will forever do that. One of my friends doesn't know the difference between sunrise and sunset and confuse them all the time. That is how I feel about golf cart and go-kart.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Anyway, so.
Speaker 2:It's on the top deck of the Norwegian Bliss. So it's on the top deck of the Norwegian Bliss. They have a go-kart track.
Speaker 1:It's really cool so you're like in. Alaska. And boy are you flying, you know you're just so I well, I feel like you should tell the story, because I remember it differently.
Speaker 2:Here's the short. The short version of the story is Ben, Emily and I are flying around this track and Jessica is operating under the assumption that she is flying around this track and jessica is operating under the assumption that she is flying around this track and she was pedaling, baby.
Speaker 2:No, she is causing a backup on this track and we are all trying to go around her and we get off and she's like man, that was so fun, we're going, I was going so fast and all of us are like dude, you were going so slow and I was pedaling the metal.
Speaker 1:There's something wrong with my car.
Speaker 2:We were all just dying because she got off and she's like I was going so fast. We were like we're going so slow. All of us, all of us were like, get out of our way that's probably right in the middle too, like oh, and you didn't believe us at first, but you, I still don't. Honestly, I still kind of don't it took all of us to finally convince you like it's not just me, it's not just like it was all of us well, I think my car was broken.
Speaker 1:There's nothing else I could change. I was to the floorboard, okay, and then on the brakes and then the floorboard, and then I was never breaking, I was never braking, I was flying.
Speaker 2:Anyway, all right, moving on, okay. So yeah, I want the gas smell, but I want electric.
Speaker 1:Health-friendly, eco-friendly gas yes.
Speaker 2:Just like burn a candle that smells like gas.
Speaker 1:Oh, I can get you that gas smell for wholesale.
Speaker 2:Get one of those like Disney candle maker brands on that Tomorrowland Speedway.
Speaker 1:That's a great idea. What essential oils would they be putting in it?
Speaker 2:You can't burn it though.
Speaker 1:It's just real Okay.
Speaker 2:We're starting strong. That's right, you can't ever actually don't light it, you can smell it. It's just liquid gas there with the wick, it's totally safe, all right okay, tron.
Speaker 1:What are your plus and minus for tron?
Speaker 2:okay. So I actually really think this is a very fun ride. I think it is especially fun. It's like 10 times more fun if you were in the front row. This is one where usually I don't care like people like oh, you're in the front row. This is one where usually I don't care like people like oh, you gotta get the front row, gotta get the back row. Normally I don't feel like it really matters. This is one where I will wait and be in the front row, because when you are like leaning over in the front row, there's like nothing in front of you. It makes a huge difference. So this is one. I think it is worth waiting and asking a cast member be in the front row may I please?
Speaker 2:please. I think 80 of people are going to agree with me and then 20 of people are going to be really mad at me strongly disagree, yeah no one cares about tron and no one knows anything about tron.
Speaker 1:There's someone I bet my. If my older brother, born in the late 70s, growing up in the 80s, was watching this, he'd be like no so I think I think it needs a re-theme also, even kind of.
Speaker 2:I mean, I tried to watch the original tron. I got about 20 minutes in and I had to turn it off. I couldn't understand what was going on.
Speaker 1:I I think I need to give it another chance. No, no idea what's going on?
Speaker 2:Also, it doesn't really have anything to do with Tron. I mean, there's kind of lights along the, but there's not really a time, there's no storyline, you know what I mean there probably is that we just don't get because we don't know. I feel like it'd be easy to retheme it to kind of anything else.
Speaker 1:Oh, I already have the idea.
Speaker 2:But also to make the track three times longer because it is such a long wait, or you have to do the virtual queue or the. I mean they've done a million different things over the time, or I mean ever since it opened, and then here's my last thing. This is just a gripe. This is not something they can change.
Speaker 2:It took them so long to build this stinking ride really did and so that I think it was just kind of a letdown because they started building it and then they like built guardians of the galaxy. They started it later and opened it sooner, and it was better. So then Tron opened later and it was kind of a letdown.
Speaker 1:Well, they're very similar in a lot of ways. Tron is like a 40 second ride.
Speaker 2:I just feel like it was just they need to make it so much longer and have like a better theme, but it is fun.
Speaker 1:So yeah, my positive is I mean, mean, wow, it's a fun ride, like it is very fun. Totally agree about the front row. I honestly forgot until you said them like that's right. Here's my thing. My negative, my con, is exactly the same thing. I literally wrote literally any other movie. Most people haven't seen it. It seems like an odd swing. It seemed odd when they announced it.
Speaker 2:It's still odd to me now there's a new movie coming out, but just, or maybe just like.
Speaker 1:So here's the thing it should be big hero six. Think about what hero created the little bots that can like build different things that could be building the track. They're all zipping around on baymax all the time, like it could be literally any of those things that would be cool, it I know so, disney, this is what I mean. I have the goosebumps. Take my idea for free Baymax all the time, like it could be literally any of those things that would be cool. I know so, disney, this is what I mean. I have the goosebumps. Take my idea for free. Make it Big Hero 6. You're right, I love if you guys have not seen that movie. I have no interest in any of the stuff, and yet that is one of my favorite Disney movies. I was so blown away. We've watched it now many times so many times I can't believe how much I love that movie.
Speaker 1:So if you haven't, if you've been dragging your feet on big hero six, please watch it, and just just take my advice watch it.
Speaker 2:I think it is the best, most underrated disney movie that's like ever been made. I used to say that about meet the robinsons meet the robinsons is good big hero six is amazing. But yeah, there's that whole scene where he's riding on the back of Baymax.
Speaker 1:That could be it. That's it. Just redesign the ride vehicles a little bit, and it's all about high-tech stuff. It's all about like they're all literally engineers, basically Like anyway, done, yes, done, done.
Speaker 2:So there you go, you're welcome. Okay, I am proof.
Speaker 1:Tron, you fixed it. Baymax ride that just seems funny, okay. Next one, space Mountain. Okay, well, my positive. It's just so, so good. It is so 1980s, spacey, weird. And even when you're on the ride, the like random little like lasers or whatever you want, stars or whatever it is that's going on around you, all of that feels like you're in a 1980s movie in the greatest way. So not only is it just so thrilling, but it's so just old school in that way, but it's still so thrilling.
Speaker 1:I feel like that's one. It depends on where you sit, like. Sometimes I'll ride and be like, okay, that was all right. And then other times I ride, I'm like I was flying out of my seat, crazy. I'm assuming the back or back is a good one because front, no one's in front of you. Back is good because I feel like you're really flying, you're like, actually.
Speaker 1:So my negative is I feel like they, they need to fix the line, and what I mean by that is it's so long to get back to the actual ride itself and I feel like it just needs. They've done so much with interactivity in like different cues, for example, winnie the Pooh and Peter Pan. I feel like they could do some more interactive games or something in those lines, because you're just kind of in the dark and usually if we're doing it we did Lightning Lane or something, but if you're actually waiting an hour in that line, you know what I mean. So I feel like they could. They could do something. Maybe make it a moving walkway in one or two of those long hallways.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, although, no, that wouldn't work, because, yeah, but I know you mean, we're like having something interactive to yeah, maybe, maybe.
Speaker 1:That's all it is. I don't know, it's been so long since we haven't waited in the actual line.
Speaker 2:They might do a play disney thing in there now well, certainly on the app there's probably.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Just it's kind of fun to have something like that. So yeah but there's not a lot to complain about. I love Space Mountain.
Speaker 2:That's it. I mean I literally wrote. I mean, come on, who doesn't love Space Mountain?
Speaker 1:That's what I mean. Look at the shirt.
Speaker 2:And so one of the things I love about the Disney World one is that you are in line so you kind of feel like, especially if you're in the front, you feel like you're kind of riding alone, which I think is such a cool thing. So that's, I mean, that's a very cool, just so fun. So that's my positive, being in line versus being double wide. I think that's a very cool feature about this one minus one, or my my idea for improvement. When we went on, or when we went during the mickey's not so scary I went with my brother Jason.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:The lights were completely turned off and that was awesome. That was the first time I think I'd ever done it that way.
Speaker 1:Because it's already pretty dark.
Speaker 2:I mean you can't see a lot you can kind of see because they've got the stars and you can kind of tell. But I mean, it's a pretty is you're still kind of disoriented, but having the lights completely off, you have no idea what's coming next.
Speaker 1:So I think that was special for the Halloween season Right.
Speaker 2:So maybe it's just during the party or something. I didn't even know they did that, so I think maybe by overlay.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say it's like an overlay, but it's by overlay. They just turn it off.
Speaker 2:So I think every day after, say, 8 pm, 9 pm, depending on how late the park is open, the last hour, two hours of the park it goes completely dark and it's just a daily occurrence.
Speaker 1:That would that would be incredible. I think that'd be cool.
Speaker 2:Make it more of a more more. Make it less rare.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Anyway, that was my idea.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, you go first this time. Astro Orbiter All right, remember that little chestnut.
Speaker 2:It's Dumbo on stilts. Who doesn't love that? So it's one of the. I always say it's like some of the best views of the park, so it's great, right, this is gonna be a short one for me. It's great, you have awesome views of the park minus the queue sucks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what queue. You know it feels like you're at a local theme park. Yeah, not in a good way. I listen, we love our local theme parks. We're literally going to one this weekend, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:It's like yeah it's so, not disney, it's just the like switchback lines right out there, and then you get in the cockroach elevator and you go up, so okay we say cockroach elevator because every time we do it we look up and there's cockroaches in the ceiling.
Speaker 1:Because again I think it's just one of those like forgotten little areas of Disney, I don't know, and again that's so un-Disney, like.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly, it stands out for a reason. Yeah, because it's not like that.
Speaker 1:But truly, though that ride my plus is it is way more exhilarating and thrilling than you might think if you've never ridden it. I remember we dragged our feet on ever doing it because we'd be like I don't want to wait in that line, and when we finally did, I'm like, oh my gosh, this ride is amazing yeah probably one of the best rides in tomorrowland easily, especially during the fireworks oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Or just at night in general, you can see, but yeah, definitely, but yeah, you got to get in this elevator and so only so many people and then they got to get people down. I'm like there has got like, think about how they did people mover. It should be similar to that. Honestly, do the exact same thing, then at least you're.
Speaker 2:I don't know, maybe it's because it's a level above it. They couldn't do the moving walkway another, they'd have to, literally have it in it going a different way.
Speaker 1:So it just seems so odd, but they're probably never gonna change it because it yeah, I mean it just kind of is what it is and I think again you need more shade fans.
Speaker 2:I mean they could.
Speaker 1:There are certain things they could do to make it a little bit better, but there's not a lot they could do but there are certain things they could do yeah, fans, and shade hands and shade baby all right people mover well, first of all, it's the name of his travel agency people peoplemovertravelcom.
Speaker 2:So I put my plus one. I have no notes. It's just perfect and I have no notes. That said, I have a note. It needs a better cue on the lower level and I need a discreet little area where I can tip the cast member so that I can just keep writing it over and over again and they don't make me get off. So I just need like a little spot. Maybe I can like it's like a little spot I can stick a dollar bill or maybe maybe they put out like at church.
Speaker 1:You know some of them have the like thing where they stick it out and you put money in it. You can stick it out.
Speaker 2:You can put my dollar and keep writing over and over and over so I don't have to get so that's, that's I want to, didn't someone ride people mover for like 24 hours straight or something.
Speaker 1:I feel like I'd heard not 24. Obviously it closes, but you know yeah like for seven hours or something crazy anyway, but yeah, so that's my, my one idea where can I tip the cast members?
Speaker 2:so I don't remember that. But yeah, so that's my one idea when can I tip the cast members so I don't have to get off?
Speaker 1:That's awesome. Okay, I wrote that it's so classic, right. I love that it has kept all of the weird, random, very niche things about it and they've never changed those. And so anytime you hear about the lore and we're planning an episode soon about some of our favorite Disney lore we are very excited. But I feel like they could have easily overlaid people move or travel. I mean, that was genuine, okay, people calling Dr what is it?
Speaker 1:people mover? Oh my gosh, they could have easily overlaid this with some kind of ip, and disney always does things well. It would have been great, but it would have been really sad because this is one of the few at disney world old school kind of original-ish nostalgic rides that has nothing to do with anything from Disney at all.
Speaker 2:Like you see a little bit of their rides, but they got rid of the one in Disneyland, right? Yeah, they used to have it there and I'm pretty sure they got rid of it.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I'm trying to think. I've been reading we're going to Disneyland very, very soon and we are very excited, and I'm trying to remember. I was kind of looking at a map the other day reminding myself of where things are and, yeah, you look it up, so I'll keep going. Yeah, I just love that it. And I literally wrote that it almost feels like Disneyland in that way that they've kept this kind of niche, very specific ride for no reason other than people love it.
Speaker 2:You know, Disneyland used to have the people mover from 1967 to 1995.
Speaker 1:OK, so it was. It was longer ago that it went away than I would have guessed.
Speaker 2:It closed due to high maintenance costs. Really, the original track structure remains in place as of 2025.
Speaker 1:Better go look at that. Okay. So my negative is I kind of wish but see, I'm going to say this and I think I'm instantly gonna take it back I was gonna say I kind of wish they played like the tomorrowland music while you're writing. You know that weird music loop. But the more I think about it I think no, because a you can kind of hear it already they do and they have their little like interludes of talking about you know, paging mr morrow, etc.
Speaker 1:so I take. So I take it back. No negatives, it's perfect.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, and what's cool is there are some areas that have like windows that are blacked out. That used to be old things and again we can talk about this in our lore episode. But then you have the Epcot scale model. You can see inside some of the gift shops and some of the rides.
Speaker 1:Which is just so cool.
Speaker 2:Why are we so into that, you know it's just yeah, it's just amazing. And then you get to go inside space mountain and yeah and then sometimes you get to see it with the lights on, you get a nice breeze. It's such a cool ride structure, the way that I mean, the way that the actual ride vehicles work is such a fascinating technically, love it okay it lasts a long time, so you could actually like relax for a little yeah and then you just tip them in their.
Speaker 2:You're just gonna write a story you can't keep writing over and over again oh okay, carousel of progress.
Speaker 1:Well, this was mine, where I said plus, uh, everything it is perfect. And my minus is nothing it's perfect. Um, I will say the addition of walt in the intro is going to be cool.
Speaker 2:I was terrified. I really hope it will be.
Speaker 1:I was terrified when they said they were adding Walt. I'm like which scene are they removing? What do you mean? And then I realized they're just doing it in that little intro. I'm like perfect, that's fine, Because they're not changing anything. That's like meaningful to any of us. You know what I mean. That's just the sign and you just load in so to be able to see even a minute or two and to have our own in florida animatronic. Now we're gonna.
Speaker 1:We're gonna see the real I have definitely, and I mean even see the videos. I'm like I feel a little mixed about it, but nonetheless it'll be cool to have so I uh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I want to see it in person.
Speaker 1:That's all I'm gonna say oh yeah, because yeah okay what about?
Speaker 2:you for carousel of progress I do laugh every time at the beginning of that show, where they're like this is the longest running stage show in human history. I'm like, is it though? Because?
Speaker 2:I'm like history you guys aren't humans it's an interesting thread to pull there, guys. You know I mean robots. Okay, this isn't really even a plus one, but it's kind of my plus one, the. I used to have this like six cd set and I have since lost it and I looked it up online and it's like 175, so I'm not gonna buy it again, but if I can ever find it for inexpensive at goodwill or something, somebody somebody doesn't know what they have it was like this maybe it's like four cds and it was like uh, walt Walt Disney at the 1964 World's.
Speaker 1:Fair. Drop my iPad, guys. Oh boy, Is it alive? You have to last forever. I'm not buying another one. I told you you had to last forever.
Speaker 2:Good, all right, good, ok. So it was like Walt Disney at the 1964 World's Fair.
Speaker 1:Did you get this from the library at one point and listen to it? Yes, like I, I'm talking 15 years ago.
Speaker 2:Yes, but then they had it for sale and I bought it from the library, like in their, in their like section. What happened?
Speaker 1:to it.
Speaker 2:I have no idea. It was when, when I moved out from my parents' house. I think I left it and all that kind of stuff, so it was.
Speaker 1:Did it have all the versions of Carousel of Progress?
Speaker 2:So I had all these different things, but it also had like just it was this like amazing what I want to say? Like collection of, even like the. It was like the track of just the guy recording the audio, like it was just a true Disney nerds, are you looking it up?
Speaker 1:The whole CDs on YouTube Goes through the whole thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is it. I don't know if you can show the. If you want to see the, no, I can cram on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, here you go. No, you guys can see it. Anyway, if you just type in Walt Disney 1964 World's Fair, you'll find it.
Speaker 2:There's go. No, you guys can see it anyway. If you just type in walt disney 1964, world's fair, you'll find it. There's a whole playlist someone's got but you could hear, like I said, it would just be like the audio track of just the guy recording the voiceover for the carousel of progress you would hear. There was this amazing one it was my favorite one where you would hear walt disney and I don't remember what it was that he was recording, but it was walt disney recording the voiceover for something. I think it was the um. It was like the Autopia thing where he was talking about different lands or something like that. But my favorite part was you could hear him like in between takes taking sips of coffee from like a styrofoam cup and it just made him seem so human, which is the most weird thing in the world. But I loved. I listened to it in the car all the time.
Speaker 1:Well, couldn't you hear him say I'm remembering now he'd be like Marty, that all the time. Well, couldn't you hear him say I'm remembering now he'd be like marty, that's a mouthful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I can't because he would be like recording and it sounded like you know, we all hear him do voiceovers. But then he'd be like marty, that's a mouthful, can we stop? And then we'd stop the recording. And he's talking, of course, to marty scolari and then. But I'm like it just made him seem so human and it was just the coolest thing, but well, it lives on.
Speaker 2:That's great and so yeah, so I gotta, I want to find this, this booklet, again at some point. Like I said, I looked it up, but it was so expensive to buy it again.
Speaker 2:So anyway, that said, carousel of progress you circled back the minus one or the thing I want to change and I really hope they do it. I've talked about this before. When they redo with this new edition with Walt, I want them to take it back to the original soundtrack, because it used to be this glorious full symphonic orchestra and the guy who played the grandpa was the guy who was the original voice of the main guy and it was.
Speaker 1:There's a great big, beautiful tomorrow.
Speaker 2:And it was this beautiful symphonic score.
Speaker 1:It was kind of rich.
Speaker 2:It was richer it was so rich and now it's like literally a banjo it's like there's a great big, beautiful tomorrow and I want them to take it back to the original. Like big full, like cause, it just got the people going gets me going anyway, so that's what I want.
Speaker 1:To go back to the the big fanfare.
Speaker 2:Full symphonic orchestra, that's what I wanted.
Speaker 1:I want to go back to the big fanfare, yeah.
Speaker 2:Symphonic orchestra. That's what I want. Love it. Look at, listen to listen to it. Come back to me. Compare the two. And you got to listen to the old one, You're going to listen to the new one. Compare, Come back to me.
Speaker 1:Okay, space. Space ranger spin Totally different. Space Ranger spin Totally different. Such a different. We're jumping centuries. It feels like Really went off on a tangent there. I love it. This is what I come here for, okay.
Speaker 2:All right, this is why I listen to the Disney.
Speaker 1:This is why I listen to this podcast. My hair's stuck in this Hold on. My hair is wild and crazy today, okay Me.
Speaker 2:Yeah Me. I've been talking a lot recently. The people have been telling me that the people need a break.
Speaker 1:Okay, space Ranger Spin. I mean it just feels like a 1990s childhood dream to me and I love it. That's going to be the theme of another thing we're going to talk about here in a minute. A 1990s dream, just nostalgic in that toy story. I mean, those movies will get me emotional instantly, especially the first one. And then, of course, was it three when he goes off to college or whatever. I can't, I genuinely can't even watch that. Okay. So back to Buzz Lightyear. It's, it's, a fun ride. Obviously, the big negative I would originally have said is they need to fix the lasers. You have no idea if you're hitting anything. However, they are yeah um, so that.
Speaker 1:But the only other thing is, are they ever going to fix like the buzz light year has been like in and out of commission, like the legit, I'm like they need to. They need to fix that. Like come on, so if you're waiting and sometimes that line can be long, like if you're waiting in that line, get buzz fixed, okay, yeah so this one, I kind of I didn't really have um a plus one minus one because I've just they're doing a lot of different things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're changing some, so my my plus one was the fact that I love the sound that it goes pew, pew, pew that is I love that sound, um.
Speaker 2:So my minus though I'm like so they're fixing a lot of stuff. So I just kind of wrote down what they're fixing. From what I understand, you're getting new blasters. You're getting that are like always on, so like the lasers, so you can see where you're pointing and not just when it shoots. Yeah, so that's better. You're getting new ride vehicles, new interactive targets that you can tell they do something, I think they're fixing the big problem.
Speaker 2:There's a new scene at the beginning. That's a training scene, um, so I think there's there's a huge change and it's been I mean it's already down, it's been. It's not coming up until 2026 at some point, so it's a big change. So I'm kind of reserving judgment on this one.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. So it's kind of hard to do a plus one. You know what good on them for keeping this ride, because oh yeah it is otherwise like. The theming is perfect. Yeah, buzz, lightyear, and you're playing a game like you're in an arcade, kind of like it genuine and the Emperor Zerg, like all of that makes complete sense. The ride has always made sense, it's just that it wasn't executed well when it comes to the actual ride. Can we get more ride games?
Speaker 2:Interactive kind of interactive.
Speaker 1:I love like Toy Story Mania. I love that ride I could just go. That's the one where, if they put their offertory coffers at me, I'd be given.
Speaker 2:I'd be dropping 20s to play, yeah I want one in every park yeah so we've got one in what hollywood studios?
Speaker 1:obviously buzz, lightyear and magic kingdom, I don't think epcot, but we need one in every park. That is so fun and that is all ages fun. Yeah, you can bring a baby on midway mania.
Speaker 1:I mean you behold them and you know you might not be able to play as well, but you know what I mean. So all the whole family can enjoy it yeah, all levels, but it's genuinely fun, even for the adults like I, so I'm very excited that they're redoing yeah, I agree, I agree good move, disney all right, so this is our final ride slash attraction here, and then we'll move to a couple other things.
Speaker 2:Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor.
Speaker 1:What do you think?
Speaker 2:All right. So I wrote it's such a unique attraction. I think it's such a cool thing and it's a great people eater. It takes a lot of people at once and I think it's just a fantastic thing. That's so different from so many other attractions that I mean it's a very unique experience. Yeah, that's my plus. My minus is that it's very hit or miss, depending entirely on the comedian that is in the back that time.
Speaker 1:And then what kind of day they're having, you know. Yeah, I will say this. So I wrote great idea and great execution. I actually think what am I saying? I actually think it is always funny and I am not an easy laugh, and I don't say that to brag, because I hate it when people are like I'm a hard laugh. I'm like, okay, you find no joy in life. I just mean like I enjoy things with my eyes. You know what I mean? I get smiley eyed, but when I laugh, I mean it.
Speaker 2:I will say I, I. It was the last two times we've done it.
Speaker 1:I felt like I was like yeah, well, maybe I always wonder if we get in our head of like we remembered it being so funny, but in actuality. It was medium funny, but I always find myself laughing and it always. They always surprise me with some of the jokes they make and, of course, if you've never done it, it's literally comedians and they're, but they're monsters from monsters inc. On stage. You're not seeing them, but they're seeing you yeah boy, are they seeing you?
Speaker 1:because they will make fun of you. But it's, it's always in good fun and it is always I love it. My con is for whatever reason, I never want to go do it like anytime you're like let's go do that, I'm like all right, but then when I'm there, I always have a great time. Yeah, but it's like if there's there's always a little bit of a wait where they're, you know you're standing inside. So even if there's no wait, you're always still waiting like 10 minutes to get in. So I I don't know, I don't know what it is about that. I felt the same way about stitch's great escape which what's going in there, guys?
Speaker 2:they also never, ever, ever, ever, ever take my jokes that's what he's. That's what you're mad about, honestly your jokes are usually pretty good and I'm not mad about I'm not mad all right, we only have a couple dining ones here, so just really quickly, um the ones that are not included. Just well, we'll do those at the end.
Speaker 1:Okay, we'll do. Here's a couple ones we're done um cosmic rays well, you guys know how much I love cosmic rays. It is a 90s fever dream, and I mean that in the best way. Um, I have an idea, though, for them to improve upon it I think he should take a break every hour, and a curtain will close all the way around him, although there's yep, curtain closes and a few minutes close all the way around him.
Speaker 1:Although there's, you can't see behind him. Yep curtain closes and a few minutes later he comes out walking amongst the people. Yeah, it's a great idea.
Speaker 2:That would be amazing.
Speaker 1:A photo with him. It wouldn't even be that much Like it wouldn't? Even be that big of a deal but to have I mean People would lose. That would be so cool if people could get out and install the curtain with him.
Speaker 2:It would be the biggest like social media sensation among the disney instagram world 100 again.
Speaker 1:My ideas are free that's a good I can be hired as a consultant.
Speaker 2:I don't have the time um, so I wrote my plus one. It is the greatest show in the universe.
Speaker 1:My minus one is that the show could use a little work lunching pad that's all I got honestly, I will say the food at cosmic grace is always pretty good. You've won. What was it that you got?
Speaker 2:The veggie burger.
Speaker 1:The black bean burger whatever it was. Both of us generally actually like black bean burgers.
Speaker 2:We bought some at Costco recently. They were good, so when it's not good.
Speaker 1:It's like what did you do? Lunching pad.
Speaker 2:Okay, I said it's a fun place to grab something quick to eat. You can people watch and then be on your way. Yep, my minus one is I don't care for the stools and interesting there's never enough. I feel like we always have to circle a few times before we finally find a spot to sit, and then you're like you're sitting on the uncomfortable little stools. Yeah, they don't want you there.
Speaker 1:Long baby I bet that's exactly why. So um, I wrote honestly, surprisingly good menu and I double checked the menu again. They still have their breakfast menu I've talked to I might have even made like an Instagram reel about this back when we were there whenever they have this sticky bubble bread and I think that is available all day long now and it's kind of like a monkey bread kind of, but it's got like a little bit of icing on it. It's really it's pretty good and it's usually served warm with coffee like are you kidding me? But they also had their like breakfast tachos or whatever. It was like the breakfast menu for a quick service breakfast for something different is very good. And then the lunch they've got like the the warm cream cheese pretzel. They've got like some interesting hot dogs.
Speaker 2:So I feel like they do a good job of having a small, curated menu of interesting items that aren't you're not finding everywhere else yeah and I want more of that and if you are in the mood for a 13 hot dog, have I got a place for you all right, okay, no, but you know what?
Speaker 1:here's my negative oh yeah, I didn't or my, I'm sorry, my idea they should just make it a Pizza Planet walk-up window.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:It's right outside of Buzz Lightyear.
Speaker 2:There'd always be such a long line, though you would.
Speaker 1:I mean, I feel like that would be Mobile order baby, but I have another idea for Pizza Planet here in a minute. That's maybe even better, okay.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:Well, your cards. But Tomorrowland Terrace, okay, I do think it is a great use of space to do the dessert parties there. It makes complete sense. It was almost like they planned it from the beginning, but of course they didn't, because that's been there for quite a while. But it's kind of sad to me that the kitchen, that whole walk-up, is not really used otherwise. So I'm like, couldn't they? You know what I mean? It feels like they should be.
Speaker 2:It used to be.
Speaker 1:Well, of course, and it still existed when we first started going there. So I have two ideas. Make it a pizza planet Amazing Plenty of seating. But then maybe pizza planet closes early. When they want, they could still do their dessert parties. It wouldn't take a lot of work in the kitchen to make pizzas and salads, you know, whatever they have a pizza planet in Disneyland, they could easily replicate it. Is it the best pizza in the galaxy? I'm not so sure, but or it's right off of main street but kind of out of the way. Make it a Joffrey's whole thing, have pastries and stuff, all the different coffees. So if you don't want to wait in the starbucks line, you can mobile order or go walk up to a bigger joffrey's area yeah, I mean mine.
Speaker 2:Basically the same thing, really. I just said that it's. I think it's cool that it's like this tiered, multi-tiered restaurant. It is prime location, cool views, cool views of the castle day or night my negative is I'm like they're just wasting the space. It is a, it is prime location, yeah, and it's just a huge waste of space. Right now they do the dessert parties, but those are only in the evenings and they charge an insane amount for those.
Speaker 1:And boy are they fun, but those.
Speaker 2:But for 14 hours a day it just sits there.
Speaker 1:Mm, hmm, dude, they're. What are you doing? And there's not a huge amount of prep set up and etc for the dessert parties. That is a well-oiled machine at this point, so they absolutely could do even just do breakfast.
Speaker 2:I mean, magic kingdom always needs more breakfast places. Have it, have an additional place to do. I mean coffee, because the starbucks, the main street bakery, is always busy. I'll just have basic coffees over there, you, you don't even need to do fancy coffees, do basic coffees. Do a couple breakfast things over there. Do a Joffrey's. It doesn't have to be a big, it doesn't have to be like a themed place, just have something there. Yeah, a quick service location throughout the day. It's such a waste of space. It would help relieve pressure on all the other places.
Speaker 1:They just got to listen.
Speaker 2:I don't know, Like I can't imagine a monetary reason that they would not open that Right.
Speaker 1:They got so many balls. They're juggling though, don't you think?
Speaker 2:They have 70,000 cast members.
Speaker 1:I'm sure they can afford 12 people. All right, so we wanted to do I don't 13 for a hot dog. I'm pretty sure you know how much they charge for a dessert party way more than 13 anyway, okay, now we sounded negative. We should say we love all of these things like we.
Speaker 2:The dessert party was amazing really quickly, though, so I'm just going to say the places that we did not mention anti-gravity's galactic cookies. Energy bites we didn't talk about. The joffrey's coffee energy bites um, tomorrowland launch depot and star traders the two stores we didn't talk about that, yeah, we kind of felt like anyway, we exhausted it overall, though oh, I didn't write one for overall well, you think okay, go ahead we wanted to do an overall plus or minus because we asked you guys if you had an overall and we'll share some of those here in a minute.
Speaker 1:So my overall plus one. The music is amazing and you can look that up on YouTube. If you're ever just feeling real Disney weird, like I am often, just pop on Tomorrowland area music loop and just listen to that. It's like you can't listen to it for too long, I realized. But I just love it and my dad also loves it. I remember like seven or eight years ago I pulled it up and we were just listening. He loves it too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I'm starting to realize I've always felt this love for Tomorrowland, ever since we first started going a decade and a half ago. I think part of the reason I love it and I never really realized it is because it has so much of that old school kind of weird Disney stuff People Mover, carousel of Progress, even Space Mountain, they're kind of these older feeling, the Autopia, if you will, the Tomorrowland, a lot of the things in there, even Astro Orbiter, that whole. Look to it. All of it is very, very old school Disneyland and I think it just comes across and it is so cool and I don't think I've ever really realized what it was about that I loved and that's what it is.
Speaker 1:And then add in that weird retrofuturism, music too, and it's just the perfect package. My future is music too, and it's just the perfect package. Yeah, my negative clean the bathrooms you nasty okay. The bathroom back behind joffrey's, beautiful, pristine. Clean the one by tomorrowland paris uh, that one it's okay, but the one you know the one. If you saw our bathrooms episode where we ranked the best and worst bathroom, that's one of my favorite episodes we have ever done. Definitely go listen to that or watch that. Next, that bathroom has to be the worst one in all of the disney parks. It's the one kind of by anti-gravities and near the gift shop.
Speaker 1:It's nasty always it's a very busy that's 100, why it is a very busy bathroom. People are walking that way around, they're walking through. Oh well, let's stop here before we. And that is definitely why, because we know it's not the people, the lovely cast members working there, because all the other bathrooms it's probably because they literally can't keep up, so everyone just use a different bath oh yeah, all right, so I wrote my plus one is that it has been relatively open for a long time.
Speaker 2:It hasn't been under construction like every other place. I mean, for the last 15, 20 years it's been relatively open, minus Stitch and Tomorrowland Terrace. There hasn't been a lot of construction, so it's been relatively usable Very settled.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's been relatively usable, very settled.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's been kind of nice. You can always count on Tomorrowland I want that on a shirt.
Speaker 1:You can always count on Tomorrowland.
Speaker 2:My minus one. It needs more shade.
Speaker 1:Everywhere yeah.
Speaker 2:Everywhere in that area needs more shade.
Speaker 1:It does feel I'm kind of thinking through walking through it. It does always feel hot over there on hot days yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And there's certain other areas of the park I would say the same thing for. But certainly over there you're right. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2:All right, let's yeah.
Speaker 1:So we asked on our Instagram, which of course is Disneyville podcast, Please follow us there. We are having so much fun posting content there that, of course, you're not seeing here on the podcast if you will. Um, we asked you guys a couple of questions. First, we're gonna. We asked you guys if you have a better name we'll talk about that in a second for this game. But we also asked what are your plus, one minus ones? You could pick a ride and share those. You could just do Tomorrowland in general, I read a few of these before we started and some of them made me laugh out loud, but they were so good. Okay. Tori Tur turtles said add more track to the people mover agreed I love it.
Speaker 1:You know what. Bring it out, have it go by tron, go over um the like, even farther out into the. I keep wanting to say autopia yeah, marlin speedway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what have?
Speaker 1:it go over to the contemporary and back just have it go all the way out well, you know, in disneyland their uh monorail goes out, goes into tomorrowland, and then back out to downtown, downtown uh underscore maraelizabeth underscore said plus one vibes and ambient music, minus one the bathroom you know which one? I didn't finish tory turtles. She said, um, and get rid of astro orbiters. And then she did a little emoji where you're covering all but one eye.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, astro is so fun, but, like we said, one, especially if you're afraid of heights like that's could be pretty terrifying for some people yeah okay.
Speaker 1:Tay vt25 said uh, minus the lunching pad, never anything good here, plus kinda extend the people mover. So it sounds like we disagree. Um, but yeah, same another person saying extend the people mover, it is well loved.
Speaker 2:It is, it is so good, it is well loved.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 2:Quinn Hotts has two things. It says people mover love the hairdresser scene, wish you could just keep going around. Boom right, extend the coffers and then said Space Mountain, love the 90s vibe, hate the broken spine.
Speaker 1:It's Jocelyn Ural. Babe, it's like Matterhorn. Yes, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:No no.
Speaker 1:Matterhorn is worse. Brianna Hager said Tyler, get rid of the gassy Speedway cars. Oh my gosh, bring back something Stitch related. It's urgent.
Speaker 2:Yes, right.
Speaker 1:Stitch is having such a moment. We watched the first. Well, you've already seen it, but I watched the first half of the new lily and stitch. I loved it. Okay, it was adorable, but I'm like man, it is kind of crazy. Stitch is huge but he really doesn't have anything not anywhere in disney world I know he had such a great escape. That was a good use of that ride they already had, yeah, but it was a little scary yeah, it was a little much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we had a daddy daughter date to the movie theaters and saw it and it was great. I really liked it. I do think there were some interesting changes, that I'm like they kind of made jumba the bad guy, which I thought was a weird change. Also, is that galifianakis? I'm like I can't take him seriously, he's actually the bad guy.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, don't ruin it for me sorry but uh, what's his name? The, the partner um, was hilarious, oh yeah um.
Speaker 2:But also there was a lot of times where I felt like, like I know the original spoilers. Okay, no, no, no, well, I already spoiled it there. They would change the lines just slightly, just for no reason. Like, for instance, like okay, in the original movie it was like um, tell me which planet my monstrosity has been unleashed. And then in the new one it was like on which planet has my monstrosity gone to and been put towards? Like, I'm like they just changed the word slightly. I'm like just use the original script.
Speaker 2:I don't know, that was a terrible example, but I'm like they just changed all of the words, like they got a thesaurus out and just changed everything.
Speaker 1:Just put it into chat GPT and had them change it. Just change this slightly written by.
Speaker 2:I'm like it was like a shot for shot remake and then they just changed things just slightly.
Speaker 1:Rachel Merslach said just take out Tomorrowland Speedway, nothing else, just take it away. You really mean it. You can ride that at any amusement park. That is very true and honestly, that's how I felt a few years ago, until I really am like realize that there is a little bit of history behind what. What are you laughing?
Speaker 2:at. I'll tell you a second.
Speaker 1:Okay, you done. Yeah, I'm done.
Speaker 2:Again. So yeah, yeah, I go back with that. Just the fact that if you read there's a book called disney's land where bob gerr talks about like designing the cars for autopia and all that kind of stuff, so you kind of get that nostalgia a little bit for it, so that kind of changed my mind on the tomorrowland speedway. So if you want to, kind of it's not going anywhere, so if you want to try and love it a little, bit, which is crazy because it is a big footprint it is.
Speaker 2:It's a huge amount of land yeah I should have put cars land there.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, it's crazy that they haven't overlaid that with cars right, anyway, okay, not the point of my story on the corner.
Speaker 2:The reason I was laughing, though, is because there is a theme park close to us in indiana that we had never been to, called Holiday World.
Speaker 1:That's where we're going this weekend with my whole family Right. Hopefully it goes well.
Speaker 2:So amazingly we had never been to this theme park. We are.
Speaker 1:I had, but it was. You went too. I was a kid or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had never been there. Finally we went. They had a similar kind of ride thing there and it was very cool.
Speaker 1:They had cars that look more like model t's versus you know like the little, like whatever.
Speaker 2:These are like speed cars, yeah, but they called it the lewis and clark trail and I just we went with some friends and they had been several times and I was like why do they call this the lewis and clark trail? These are model t cars from the 20s and we're like driving in like this, like bridged wooded area, and they were like I don't know, I never thought about it and I cannot stop thinking about this. This is it lives rent free in my brain. Why do they call this the Lewis and Clark Trail?
Speaker 1:I have to know, and then we didn't look it up.
Speaker 2:Anyway, I'm like it could have so easily been, you know a million other things, henry. Ford's.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I just thought that was very funny. Ok, k Trauger 95 said plus the carousel of progress, who doesn't love us? Oh, I'm sorry, I have reached my time limit on my Instagram. Hold on, good for you.
Speaker 1:I mean, as in if we're having a time limit.
Speaker 2:Carousel of Progress. Who doesn't love a song, a sing-along, attraction Minus, but something back into Stitch's escape. Not that show, because nightmares.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay, murr. Claire Redhair said it's already a minus, since nothing's there, but the Stitch's Great Escape space needs something. Yes, we all. Again. It's crazy that there can be real estate like that, kind of like tomorrowland terrace that's just sitting there unused.
Speaker 2:I'm like man and then they're tearing down. Amazing. What am I?
Speaker 1:talking about forget a ride. That's where pizza planet could go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then they're tearing down pizza amazing things, and then they have these empty spaces they're doing anything with. I don't know. I'm sure they know better than us. We don't know. Steph vampola said plus one joffrey. Joffrey's is usually low lines, yeah, very nice yes minus one. It always needs more shade. I always feel hot. That's exactly what I'm saying there's that whole area for some reason.
Speaker 2:I think it's just because it's a lot of concrete and there's not a lot of shade. The umbrellas are made out of metal for aesthetic reasons. Here stand under here and we're gonna let it just refer right down um, but yeah, they do. They do not do a lot of your kids.
Speaker 1:The sun's gonna hit it just right at 4 pm.
Speaker 2:Let's go ahead. It's gonna be a thousand degrees.
Speaker 1:Stand under this okay, uh, I'm reading, said the queue in space mountain in walt disney world for the one at Disneyland. So like traded, I think she's saying the Walt Disney World one makes me feel claustrophobic. Yeah, maybe that's the feeling I get walking through Space Mountain because you're going so deep in this building and it's so dark. I don't know. I'm trying to picture the Disneyland Space Mountain queue that we'll have to write it again, and but I will take your word for it because I agree.
Speaker 2:the one in disney world, it's just yeah, maybe that's that feeling and again, it's the way you have to get there, which makes sense. But there's certain things you could do again to make it feel a little bit more yeah make the time pass a little bit easier just read another one.
Speaker 1:Okay, brianna logan white wrote people mover fast past the view, especially at a people mover, and we're going to get back to fast pass and hard pass that she said here in a second. Hard pass I can't bring a drinky drink. Dude, even if you could just bring even if you could just bring, like your Starbucks, whatever or milkshake from anti-gravity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:On to the people mover. Would that not just be amazing? Yeah, I want to drink an iced coffee on the people mover.
Speaker 2:Oh, get one of those slushies. All right, so here we got a few for our responses to plus one, minus one changing the name. We also just did this like right before we started this episode, so we have not had a ton of time up. We've got to be better about doing this earlier.
Speaker 1:I know earlier in the day.
Speaker 2:We're so bad about that.
Speaker 1:We'll work on it, friends.
Speaker 2:OK, so here's a couple that we have here. So we got several, like a lot, that say Rose and Thorn, which apparently that's a thing you were. You were saying that that's a thing you were.
Speaker 1:You were saying that that's a yeah. Um, one of you guys explained it roses and thorns. Uh, sarah elizabeth 689 said roses and thorns. As a camp counselor was always a good and a bad part of the day, and a lot of you guys said rose and thorn. Mrs lauren toner said that megan, anywhere cute rose and thorn. Brianna hager also said rose and thorn. Kiki katie turner said magic and makeover or happily ever after. Almost that's cute. So magic and makeover. I'm really digging rose and thorn, maybe because even do magic or makeover.
Speaker 2:Like is it magic or would you make over? Yeah, yeah um love always. Joanne has a bunch of good ones. She wrote pixie dust, villain curse, wish granted, wish denied, happily ever after. Once upon a setback she says should I keep going?
Speaker 1:oh okay brianna logan white, who I was reading hers a second ago. She said fast pass or hard pass. That's a good one.
Speaker 2:I really like that one fast pass or hard pass, that's a good one. I really like that one. Fast pass or hard pass, that's kind of that one's that one's really sticking out tate hyatt said love it and leave it.
Speaker 1:That was one that I had written down. I put love it or list it remember that show and that just made me laugh. Like you'd list it for sale.
Speaker 2:Yeah, probably not yeah, I think fast pass or hard pass is the one that's standing out to me right now.
Speaker 1:Hold on. Mara Elizabeth said magic or mishap. What was the other one? Magic and makeover, Both good. Megan Anywhere also said pit and peak. Kristen on Main Street also said pit and peak. Is that a thing If two of them said it?
Speaker 2:pit and peak, like the pit of your day and the peak of your day type thing oh man, you guys are so much more clever than us.
Speaker 1:Mary C Hippie said, or maybe Mary Chippy, I don't know Wish and switch. That's a great one too.
Speaker 2:Wish and switch. Wish and switch oh, that's great. All right, so we'll have to talk about it and see what we end up deciding again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, out and see and see what we end up deciding. Yeah, if we, if we do go with one of your ideas, you will have already seen it in the title and if we have not made up our mind yet, then we still called it plus one, minus one. You already know, but we don't yet. So anyway, thank you guys. Oh, we wanted to read a review, tyler, and then I believe it is my turn.
Speaker 2:All right, so christy does. Said thank you for being there. Said I discovered this podcast right before having my first baby this summer. I've been going on walks every day and have only been listening to your podcast on my daily route, so I feel like you guys have been there. This might, uh, been there with me this entire maternity leave. You made this special time for me even more enjoyable because of your fun and light-hearted podcasts. Thank you for being there for me during this crazy transition of motherhood.
Speaker 2:Ps, my husband and I used to work for Disney and your podcast still makes everything feel magical. That is the nicest compliment I think I've ever heard, cause that we we always talked about like, if we ever like. When we were younger, we talked about working for Disney. We were always so worried about like, if we were to work for Disney with the magic feel like it was gone, and so about like if we were to work for disney, would the magic feel like it was, yeah, gone, and so the fact that you guys both used to work for disney and that and it still feels magical, it makes that is a happy huge, huge compliment.
Speaker 2:So thank you so much. That means a lot it does.
Speaker 1:That just made my heart flutter. Um, thank you guys. By the way, you know, as we're in, uh, season four, as we learned, we learned ourselves today I was was just, we were talking about it when we were getting set up to film today, and how lucky we feel to get to talk about something we know a stupid amount about, that we absolutely love, and that there's enough of you guys out there that care to listen, that enjoy it too, that are our people that get why we love Disney. Like, sometimes you just can't, you can't explain it. I'm like, if you don't get it, I can't possibly explain this to you. You either get it or you don't.
Speaker 2:This can't possibly fall to me.
Speaker 1:But thank you guys so much for listening and responding and following us on all the things and liking stuff we post. Like all of that helps us and yeah we're just feeling very uh, a lot of gratitude today very humbling.
Speaker 2:It's very awesome yeah well, thank you guys so much. This has been so fun. Yeah, we've got a lot of fun disney travel coming up too.
Speaker 1:We were just looking at a couple different things we may have booked something for fall break of next year. I don't think we've ever booked something that far in advance we're. We're clearly just really needing a little disney park. Fix disneyland soon.
Speaker 2:We might have a problem anyway, all right, it's fodder for our podcast, you know we got it.
Speaker 1:It has to anyway.
Speaker 2:Now we have that's the only reason we do this. Yeah, yeah, anyway. All right, I hope you guys enjoyed. We will see you guys on the next one. Bye.